Episodes

Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi sit down for a candid founder-to-founder conversation about what happens when rapid growth exposes weaknesses in your business. After Sharp Pen Media grew quickly, Joe realized that delegating client work was not the same as building a system to manage it. He shares how client churn forced him to rethink his role as CEO, establish clearer outcomes, use AI to identify account risks and make sure marketing contributes directly to pipeline. They planned to cover four to...

This week on Open Market, Allie Colman, Tax Partner and Northeast Technology Industry Leader at Aprio, joins Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi to break down the tax and equity decisions founders should think about before they become expensive mistakes. QSBS, R&D credits, 83(b)s, exit planning, and yes, a hypothetical $1B exit. Joe does the math. Eric refuses. Allie saves the episode.

Doug Lauretano, Founder & CEO of Tuple, joins Open Market to discuss why legacy DSPs may be limiting buyer access to valuable impressions. He explains how Tuple is building a next-generation DSP focused on greater visibility, transparent fees, and buyer control. Plus, Doug, Joe, and Eric settle the important question of where to find the best pizza in New York.

Jonathan Moffie, Head of Agentic Product at Magnite, explains how buyer and seller agents are already launching real advertising campaigns. He joins Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi to discuss agentic direct IOs, the future of RTB, human-guided optimization, and why ad tech companies need to move at startup speed.

Adam Singer, VP of Marketing at AdQuick, joins Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi to explain why there are no shortcuts to building an audience, how out-of-home advertising combines measurable outcomes with lasting brand impact, and why ad tech companies must invest more seriously in their own marketing.

Heather Macaulay, co-founder of MadConnect, joins Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi to discuss building a company after 40, balancing motherhood and leadership, and turning a career setback into a new opportunity. She also explains how MadConnect solves connectivity challenges across AdTech and MarTech, why experienced founders can make better decisions, and why you can have it all, just not all at once. Plus, Heather challenges Adam Epstein to a five-mile run, and Joe puts his 20 chin-ups claim on t...

Adam Epstein, founder and CEO of Gigi, joins Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi to discuss how AI is reshaping agencies, adtech services and the future of work. From scaling revenue without scaling headcount to treating AI agents like actual team members, Adam breaks down what it takes to build an AI-first business, with a few detours into pull-ups, Miami and peptides.

What happens when TV advertising becomes as easy to buy as search and social? James Borow, GM of Universal Ads at Comcast, joins Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi to discuss performance TV, incrementality, AI creative and Comcast’s ambition to build the “AppLovin of TV.” James also explains why ChatGPT ads could become a monster business and why the next major adtech company may be built by four people and a check from Aperiam.

Rio Longacre joins Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi to discuss the future of advertising, the growing influence of AI and what it takes to stay ahead in an industry that never stops changing.

Myles Younger, Chief Growth Officer at U of Digital, joins Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi for a wide-ranging conversation about what it takes to grow an adtech business, win enterprise clients and keep pace with an industry changing in real time. Plus, Joe learns what Diageo is, Eric defends his YouTube viewing habits, and the group closes with a rapid-fire round covering ChatGPT, DSPs, SSPs, New York and San Francisco.

Josh Walsh, Co-Founder & CEO of BranchLab, joins Eric and Joe to discuss transforming pharma advertising with AI, scaling a second startup, and an unexpectedly important LinkedIn message from Lance Armstrong.

A French DJ moves to Brooklyn to make audio ads perform better.

Who let G-dog Aaron loose and who would dare fact check Eric besides Joe Zappa?!! In this engaging interview, industry veteran Aaron discusses his journey from sales to marketing, the importance of personal branding, and the evolving role of AI in ad tech. He shares insights on strategic acquisitions, building a personal brand, and the creative side of marketing, all while revealing his unique personality and passions. We also learn what Eric would have done had he not become a VC. Let's just sa...

Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa break down the biggest trends they’re seeing in early-stage adtech deal flow, including the rise of chatbot and LLM ad networks, integrated marketing platforms, creator infrastructure, and a renewed wave of innovation around mobile apps. They discuss why mobile remains such an attractive market, what kinds of startups are emerging in each category, and where investors and operators are spending the most time right now. The conversation then shifts to the next phase of ...

MadConnect CEO Bob Walczak joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to break down why Publicis’ acquisition of LiveRamp is one of the most important adtech deals in years and what it reveals about the future of the industry. They discuss why connectivity and interoperability have become so strategically valuable, why Publicis made such an aggressive move from a position of strength, and what this deal says about the growing pressure on holdcos to own more of the advertising stack. The conversation also ...

Most adtech companies' no. 1 messaging challenge is focus. Joe Zappa goes solo to explain why the hardest part of messaging isn’t writing, but choosing one clear, differentiated idea instead of a list of everything you do. He breaks down why “omnichannel DSP/SSP driving outcomes” fails, how companies get trapped competing inside crowded categories, and what it takes to build a provocative narrative that actually sticks. If you want to be remembered and command attention, here is a three-step pla...

Eric talks with Shane Shevlin, co-founder and CEO of Bedrock Platform, about Bedrock's launch of the industry's first containerized DSP running directly on Index Cloud. They unpack what containerization means for buyers, how collapsing latency from 200ms to under 1ms reshapes bidder economics, and why the DSP moat is shifting from infrastructure to decisioning and data. Plus: building ad tech from London, lessons from Possible, and what's next for Bedrock in the US.

Ibotta CRO Chris Riedy joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to break down one of the hardest transitions for startups: evolving from founder-led sales to a real sales organization. They discuss what great founder-led sales looks like, why the transition can break momentum, and how to professionalize without losing what made the company work early on. Chris shares how to structure teams, hire the right mix of talent, and build a strong partnership between CEO and CRO. They also cover how the shift to...

Aperiam Partner Corey Ferengul joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to break down the six CEO archetypes — sales, product, CTO, visionary, operator, and CFO — and how each one shows up at different stages of a company’s growth. They walk through how these personas evolve from scrappy startup mode to scaled organizations, where they succeed, where they struggle, and when new leadership layers need to come in. They also discuss the tension between vision and execution, why certain archetypes fade or b...

Consumable CEO Mark Levin joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to share the founding story behind his audio advertising company and why he chose to bootstrap in an industry dominated by venture-backed players. They discuss what it means to make audio “addressable everywhere,” why the channel has struggled to meet its potential in the past, and how advertisers are reacting. Mark also breaks down how he built the business from the ground up, including early customer acquisition and go-to-market evolut...

Eric Franchi turns the tables and interviews co-host Joe Zappa on the founding story of Sharp Pen, how the agency evolved into a CEO evangelism machine, and what’s broken about traditional PR that they set out to fix. They dig into the company's product-market fit moment, what didn’t work early on, the biggest client wins and failures, and how Joe gets executives to say things they’d never put in a press release. They also cover where Sharp Pen goes next and what advice Joe has for adtech CEOs l...

Marketecture CEO Jeremy Bloom joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss why he left the operating side of adtech to build a media company and what’s driving the shift toward founder- and practitioner-led media. They break down what traditional coverage gets wrong, the opportunities and challenges of operator-driven content, and Marketecture’s strategy behind acquiring properties like AdTechGod and AdLand. Jeremy also weighs in on what makes certain creators break through and how founders shoul...

SaaS stocks are being routed in the public markets, and onlookers are wondering whether the same applies to adtech. In essence, the thinking goes, "Can't SaaS customers just vibe-code an alternative in-house and save millions on enterprise software?" Viant co-founders Chris and Tim Vanderhook explain the thinking behind the SaaSpocalypse, whether it applies to adtech, how investors should respond, and what entrepreneurs need to do to drive, not be overcome by, innovation. Plus, Eric and Joe shar...

Recast CEO Michael Kaminsky joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to discuss why marketing analytics may be an even tougher business than adtech and the founding story behind Recast. They unpack the internal politics that shape how measurement tools are adopted, why upper-funnel channels are given a lack of credit, and what marketers still get wrong about attribution. Michael also explains why “interesting insights are worthless,” how CMOs and CFOs are increasingly collaborating on marketing budgets,...